From Baghdad, Iraq to a 600-square-foot apartment in Oakland, California, follow the incredible journey of Numi’s co-founders Ahmed Rahim and Reem Hassani as they created the labor of love that is Numi.

Ahmed and Reem were interviewed on NPR’s hit business podcast, How I Built This, where they opened up to host Guy Raz about their childhood, how they came to Numi, the struggles of a start-up, their trials and tribulations building the business, and so much more. It is personal, rich, honest and heartfelt.

Find a comfortable spot, steep a mug of tea, and enjoy their story now: